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Voice of the Imaination, whole no. 29, January 1944

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IMAGI-NATION (underlined) 
That SPEER is here again! (underlined) 
Here I sit, drinking myself into a stupor with Welch's grape juice, and all it makes me think of is, "Take ye and drink all trouble. Owell, it's something I've been wanting to do a long time. You know how kids are reputed to say "When I grow up I'm gonna go to the movies everyday and eat all the ice cream cones I want." So this is an example of Speer being immature. "Gaag! Wonder if I shouldn't thin tho stuff a little with winter ...." Even to my drunken gazo, the Vomaidens in #28 still stink. On the other hand, Wortman's doodles are all quite fascinating. The invisibility cartoon was rather poorly executed. The cartoonist should have handled his background so as to make it unmistakable that the guy was apparently bodiless, "I I disagrees with Phil's (Bronson's) belief that a true potential fan is sure to find us sooner or later, All the evidence seems to point the other way. If there is a fan type, he should be distributed pretty evenly thruout the population. Yet we find the center of fan population shifting all about, and small towns like Comanche or Decker may have several active fans at some time that metropolises like St. Louis and Chicago are deserted. There must be geographical factors, primarily the proximity of other actifans, which bring in the potential ones. And a lot of accidentalness. " (The grape juice is getting low in the bottle. Wonder if I have enuf points for anothern.) " Muchly I like Milton's (Rothman's) sensible attitude toward Jewishness. I liked a quotation in Thompson's column a while back, to the effect that most of the Jews' troubles would disappear if they would forget that they're Jews. And then I turn around and see Ben Hecht or somebody else saying "Remember us at the conference table--remember us Jews, who aren't represented there" (except by their respective national representatives), apparently crying for revenge. " It mito be wise to plan to send your young slans to Sunday school. Unless religious allusions are suddenly dropped in literature and no effort in made to explain them in presenting literature of the past to students, the Judaistic-Christian background will continue to be part of our culture, and the child will be at a disadvantage-- he may make laughable mistakes like your censoring of "dick against the pricks", or misinterpreting the Biblical meaning of "charity",ktp. When time came for me to turn atheist, I didn't notice that knowing the stories of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob was much of an obstacle. " (The sun has been shining on the grape juice and warmed it. Faugh. ) " May be, as Warner says, you can (underlined) pull any desired meaning out of the gospels, but I think intelligent, enlited reading shows them to be pretty unequivocal. Satan had nothing to do with the temptation of Eve? I think such a conclusion is reached only by ignoring obvious implications, and specific traditions that have come down alongside the Gensis account. " Kopner says, "In re personal religion... her (Bovard's) definition would seem to be closer to the proper definition of philosophy". Not by a long shot. Not on your old tin-type. Closer to the vulgar definition of "philosophy", perhaps, as employed by Edgar A Guest, but in learned usage, closer to the proper definition of "ethios", which is only one of the numerous branches of philosophy. He says later, "That is good which tends to  universal progress". Maybe I'll agree with him if he'll define "progress". There are those who say we have not progressed beyond the Athenians. 
LANEY rote from (underlined) "The Lair of the Lasfs, Thanksgiving Eve, 1943"; In Vom #28 Tran (cursive) certain remarks were made by various of the VoMenagerie which actually scream for my comment. " Yerke's query concerning otherwise sane people whose mental processes go blotto when religion rears its noxious head interests me. Is this not, perhaps, an example of what my psych prof used to call "logic-tight compartments"? I believe that this logic-tight idea comes into play whenever anything is taught to the individual when he is too young to question it. That is, few people will ever question the mores and conventions of the race if they have been thoroughly impregnated with this crud at a tender age. But as far as those people being idiot savants--faugh! Idiots, perhaps. " While on this subject of religion, I am moved to contemptuous braying by Master Washington's remark on "SO MANY millions of people." The guy is no end provincial. I had always been under the impression that christianity (small "c" please) was one of the relatively minor religions. Consider the teeming millions of the far east--buddhists, confucians, sikhs, hindus, all sorts of pagan faiths. We mustn't forget old poppa Mohamet either; I daresay he has as many followers, or nearly as many, as any paper mache jesus ever thought of having. Or how about Africa? Raym should remember that although the US is a fairly large nation, it dos not comprise to the world. " Jiko's creed is immensely interesting, and with a few minor exceptions, I personally am thoroughly in accord with it. I fear he is a bit touched with the idealism in spots, but this is all right--too many cynical people around anyway. " MacDonald's remarks on fandom emerging from the science-fiction stage don't entirely jell with me. While I'll be the first to grant that a fan (or anyone else) should have a broad variety of mental interests, and not limit himself to any one field of human thought or endeavor, I fail to see the good in "emerging" from stf. Stf and its allied fields are the one great thing about fandom which truly appeals to me. Without stf, fandom would be a group of quite young, rather serious young people with radical ideas and a burning urge to express themselves. Certainly a futile bunch, except insofar as what personal satisfaction they might get. With stf, the picture changes. A detached point of view will show one that stf and its reading and collecting are futile as hell--but then, may i inquire WHAT HUMAN ENDEAVOR IS NOT (underlined) AS FUTILE AS HELL??? For the extraordinary individual, for the person who differs in one iota from the common herd, life is a futile and pointless misery; made bearable only by the cushioning effects of books, music, art, and perhaps alcohol. With stf, now, there is a chance for some satisfaction. There is a definite feelings of accomplishment in filling out some rare old magazine file, or in picking up some rare book. When one is fed up with it all, he can reread STARMAKER and get his sense of perspective adjusted. He can dig into the November 1928 Amazing, and reade some old tale he has not thought of for years, perhaps not even read at all, and get considerable pleasure therefrom. he can, in short, indulge in

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IMAGI-NATION (underlined) That SPEER is here again! (underlined) Here I sit, drinking myself into a stupor with Welch's grape juice, and all it makes me think of is, "Take ye and drink all trouble. Owell, it's something I've been wanting to do a long time. You know how kids are reputed to say "When I grow up I'm gonna go to the movies everyday and eat all the ice cream cones I want." So this is an example of Speer being immature. "Gaag! Wonder if I shouldn't thin tho stuff a little with winter ...." Even to my drunken gazo, the Vomaidens in #28 still stink. On the other hand, Wortman's doodles are all quite fascinating. The invisibility cartoon was rather poorly executed. The cartoonist should have handled his background so as to make it unmistakable that the guy was apparently bodiless, "I I disagrees with Phil's (Bronson's) belief that a true potential fan is sure to find us sooner or later, All the evidence seems to point the other way. If there is a fan type, he should be distributed pretty evenly thruout the population. Yet we find the center of fan population shifting all about, and small towns like Comanche or Decker may have several active fans at some time that metropolises like St. Louis and Chicago are deserted. There must be geographical factors, primarily the proximity of other actifans, which bring in the potential ones. And a lot of accidentalness. " (The grape juice is getting low in the bottle. Wonder if I have enuf points for anothern.) " Muchly I like Milton's (Rothman's) sensible attitude toward Jewishness. I liked a quotation in Thompson's column a while back, to the effect that most of the Jews' troubles would disappear if they would forget that they're Jews. And then I turn around and see Ben Hecht or somebody else saying "Remember us at the conference table--remember us Jews, who aren't represented there" (except by their respective national representatives), apparently crying for revenge. " It mito be wise to plan to send your young slans to Sunday school. Unless religious allusions are suddenly dropped in literature and no effort in made to explain them in presenting literature of the past to students, the Judaistic-Christian background will continue to be part of our culture, and the child will be at a disadvantage-- he may make laughable mistakes like your censoring of "dick against the pricks", or misinterpreting the Biblical meaning of "charity",ktp. When time came for me to turn atheist, I didn't notice that knowing the stories of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob was much of an obstacle. " (The sun has been shining on the grape juice and warmed it. Faugh. ) " May be, as Warner says, you can (underlined) pull any desired meaning out of the gospels, but I think intelligent, enlited reading shows them to be pretty unequivocal. Satan had nothing to do with the temptation of Eve? I think such a conclusion is reached only by ignoring obvious implications, and specific traditions that have come down alongside the Gensis account. " Kopner says, "In re personal religion... her (Bovard's) definition would seem to be closer to the proper definition of philosophy". Not by a long shot. Not on your old tin-type. Closer to the vulgar definition of "philosophy", perhaps, as employed by Edgar A Guest, but in learned usage, closer to the proper definition of "ethios", which is only one of the numerous branches of philosophy. He says later, "That is good which tends to universal progress". Maybe I'll agree with him if he'll define "progress". There are those who say we have not progressed beyond the Athenians. LANEY rote from (underlined) "The Lair of the Lasfs, Thanksgiving Eve, 1943"; In Vom #28 Tran (cursive) certain remarks were made by various of the VoMenagerie which actually scream for my comment. " Yerke's query concerning otherwise sane people whose mental processes go blotto when religion rears its noxious head interests me. Is this not, perhaps, an example of what my psych prof used to call "logic-tight compartments"? I believe that this logic-tight idea comes into play whenever anything is taught to the individual when he is too young to question it. That is, few people will ever question the mores and conventions of the race if they have been thoroughly impregnated with this crud at a tender age. But as far as those people being idiot savants--faugh! Idiots, perhaps. " While on this subject of religion, I am moved to contemptuous braying by Master Washington's remark on "SO MANY millions of people." The guy is no end provincial. I had always been under the impression that christianity (small "c" please) was one of the relatively minor religions. Consider the teeming millions of the far east--buddhists, confucians, sikhs, hindus, all sorts of pagan faiths. We mustn't forget old poppa Mohamet either; I daresay he has as many followers, or nearly as many, as any paper mache jesus ever thought of having. Or how about Africa? Raym should remember that although the US is a fairly large nation, it dos not comprise to the world. " Jiko's creed is immensely interesting, and with a few minor exceptions, I personally am thoroughly in accord with it. I fear he is a bit touched with the idealism in spots, but this is all right--too many cynical people around anyway. " MacDonald's remarks on fandom emerging from the science-fiction stage don't entirely jell with me. While I'll be the first to grant that a fan (or anyone else) should have a broad variety of mental interests, and not limit himself to any one field of human thought or endeavor, I fail to see the good in "emerging" from stf. Stf and its allied fields are the one great thing about fandom which truly appeals to me. Without stf, fandom would be a group of quite young, rather serious young people with radical ideas and a burning urge to express themselves. Certainly a futile bunch, except insofar as what personal satisfaction they might get. With stf, the picture changes. A detached point of view will show one that stf and its reading and collecting are futile as hell--but then, may i inquire WHAT HUMAN ENDEAVOR IS NOT (underlined) AS FUTILE AS HELL??? For the extraordinary individual, for the person who differs in one iota from the common herd, life is a futile and pointless misery; made bearable only by the cushioning effects of books, music, art, and perhaps alcohol. With stf, now, there is a chance for some satisfaction. There is a definite feelings of accomplishment in filling out some rare old magazine file, or in picking up some rare book. When one is fed up with it all, he can reread STARMAKER and get his sense of perspective adjusted. He can dig into the November 1928 Amazing, and reade some old tale he has not thought of for years, perhaps not even read at all, and get considerable pleasure therefrom. he can, in short, indulge in