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Voice of the Imagination, whole no. 30, March 1944

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[[Drawing: Front view of nude reclining woman]]
David & Marie Elder
of 307 West St, Wilkinsburg, Pa: Dear Regurgitates, Now I see why you acc'ptd my T.O.C. pic...so's youse wouldn't have to make out a T.O.C.....Hmmmm...I am insulted.
I see religion is chief argument these daze...Due to Marie's feelings on the matter, and mine differing (Her being very much the Christian) I will preserve maritial happiness by keeping ye olde trap shut on that subject.
Watinell was that letter on Pg. 7 with the urpy-gurpy beside it? Podden my ignorance but I'll take Vanilla.
What's wrong with Vomaidens? According to J. Speer, he don't like em...Only one in Jan. Ish I didn't care for was the ghastly one on 11. She looked..ah..sort of..well you know...anyway, she'd either better lay off the beer or start thinking up a name for it. Whoinell drew that thing on Pg. 8....Oh...I thought it looked familiar...Sorry no comment...
As to Speer's suggestion that Jike prove the nude has a place in fantasy...my answer to that is....What could be more fantastsic than nude wimmin all over the place! Or has that been said before........Jack's second letter was interesting to my way of thinking. 
Laney's letter intrigued me, particuarly "What human endeavor is not as futile as Hell?"  He has something there.

Julia Pam  C/o 26 Edward St, Shelton, Stoke-on-Trent, "Eng.-tain": If I read it thro & then wrote, you; my letter would be vague: so I'll read & note down reactions: thus
Kepner: "Will someone please give me a rational explanation of modesty" I couldn't; but there is such a thing, rational or no. Why don't you try explaining it?
Erikop: Atheism impossible? Well, I don't know. Atheism implies a working, everyday disbelief in God: surely such a disbelief exists? Thus it is possible, it exists (whether justifiable or not.). May seem a small point - but take my word for it, it isn't. Beliefs influence the formation of events in many significant ways, regardless of there truth: thus you should appreciate a man's professed atheism as an important (relative to the person's importance) fact, & allow for it as actual, not impossible. As for agnosticism - those persons who do not feel strongly, who consider themselves able to defer judgment for a lifetime (and it is a few who sincerely can do so) should realise that perons who are not interested (or have ltitle time to spare from other interests) find it convenient to accept (an effort of self-will - faith) either existence, or non-existence (not vague emptiness) and turn their back on the pros & cons--while agnostics can never be so determined and convinced that their actions are in the right direction:- therefore their actions are less effective, less forceful than those of the faithful.
Jimmy Kepner - II-is sensible; but dogmatic in this statement:- "the subjects I mentioned above (Science, the Future, Fantasy Fandom) would & should be stretched to include almost any topic that might arrise"
Does the word "Science" mean anything? "Fantasy"? the "Future"? are we to ignore their meanings - if you can't be bothered to define, them, limit their application; then don't use them!
Fantasy art should be predominantly surrealist = why don't fans study this sphere? Too much trouble? Too little sexual ecitement?
Barbara Bovard: wish we had her over here: she could help Roy Johnson & myself = who are planning - nay, acting - in the direction Barbara suggests. While the future of this particular effort - PHOENIX - Fido-sheet devoted to the social influence of fandom-as-a-potential-group is uncertain, my efforts - & those of other fans here, will continue: and when we "socially-conscious" (permissible) fans get together, Barbara, we shall be able to use more influence in uniting all fandom.
The nudes: again:- those responsible are not careful; nor are they tlaneted enough, to justify - except "Shape of Femmes to Come" of course!

[Drawing: bare-breasted woman holding scythe and sheaf of wheat)
VOMAIDEN A LA BANCA D'ITALIA, SUBMITTED BY PARR ON A LIRE CINQVECENTO NOTE

Nebularry   of 1301 State St, Schenectady, NY, submits an only slitely cut 4-pager: Abracadabra - Looking backward to the fifth Ann: the value of the fotos on the cover was enuf to make me forget any lack in the arrangement of themIf I tired hard ((sic!)) I suppose I could make a pun on the Nanek pic and Annie Oakley or something, but I don't want to try hard. The editorial reminds me to ask you if there are any back issues of VoM for sale at any price. It is now one of my greatest ambitions to own a complete set, something I don't give a about with other fmz. ((A few such, excepting #18 & 25, available at premium prices from publishers.))
I am slightly puzzled by Boob's reference to Louis Berg as a jerk.

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[[Drawing: Front view of nude reclining woman]] David & Marie Elder of 307 West St, Wilkinsburg, Pa: Dear Regurgitates, Now I see why you acc'ptd my T.O.C. pic...so's youse wouldn't have to make out a T.O.C.....Hmmmm...I am insulted. I see religion is chief argument these daze...Due to Marie's feelings on the matter, and mine differing (Her being very much the Christian) I will preserve maritial happiness by keeping ye olde trap shut on that subject. Watinell was that letter on Pg. 7 with the urpy-gurpy beside it? Podden my ignorance but I'll take Vanilla. What's wrong with Vomaidens? According to J. Speer, he don't like em...Only one in Jan. Ish I didn't care for was the ghastly one on 11. She looked..ah..sort of..well you know...anyway, she'd either better lay off the beer or start thinking up a name for it. Whoinell drew that thing on Pg. 8....Oh...I thought it looked familiar...Sorry no comment... As to Speer's suggestion that Jike prove the nude has a place in fantasy...my answer to that is....What could be more fantastsic than nude wimmin all over the place! Or has that been said before........Jack's second letter was interesting to my way of thinking. Laney's letter intrigued me, particuarly "What human endeavor is not as futile as Hell?" He has something there. Julia Pam C/o 26 Edward St, Shelton, Stoke-on-Trent, "Eng.-tain": If I read it thro & then wrote, you; my letter would be vague: so I'll read & note down reactions: thus Kepner: "Will someone please give me a rational explanation of modesty" I couldn't; but there is such a thing, rational or no. Why don't you try explaining it? Erikop: Atheism impossible? Well, I don't know. Atheism implies a working, everyday disbelief in God: surely such a disbelief exists? Thus it is possible, it exists (whether justifiable or not.). May seem a small point - but take my word for it, it isn't. Beliefs influence the formation of events in many significant ways, regardless of there truth: thus you should appreciate a man's professed atheism as an important (relative to the person's importance) fact, & allow for it as actual, not impossible. As for agnosticism - those persons who do not feel strongly, who consider themselves able to defer judgment for a lifetime (and it is a few who sincerely can do so) should realise that perons who are not interested (or have ltitle time to spare from other interests) find it convenient to accept (an effort of self-will - faith) either existence, or non-existence (not vague emptiness) and turn their back on the pros & cons--while agnostics can never be so determined and convinced that their actions are in the right direction:- therefore their actions are less effective, less forceful than those of the faithful. Jimmy Kepner - II-is sensible; but dogmatic in this statement:- "the subjects I mentioned above (Science, the Future, Fantasy Fandom) would & should be stretched to include almost any topic that might arrise" Does the word "Science" mean anything? "Fantasy"? the "Future"? are we to ignore their meanings - if you can't be bothered to define, them, limit their application; then don't use them! Fantasy art should be predominantly surrealist = why don't fans study this sphere? Too much trouble? Too little sexual ecitement? Barbara Bovard: wish we had her over here: she could help Roy Johnson & myself = who are planning - nay, acting - in the direction Barbara suggests. While the future of this particular effort - PHOENIX - Fido-sheet devoted to the social influence of fandom-as-a-potential-group is uncertain, my efforts - & those of other fans here, will continue: and when we "socially-conscious" (permissible) fans get together, Barbara, we shall be able to use more influence in uniting all fandom. The nudes: again:- those responsible are not careful; nor are they tlaneted enough, to justify - except "Shape of Femmes to Come" of course! [Drawing: bare-breasted woman holding scythe and sheaf of wheat) VOMAIDEN A LA BANCA D'ITALIA, SUBMITTED BY PARR ON A LIRE CINQVECENTO NOTE Nebularry of 1301 State St, Schenectady, NY, submits an only slitely cut 4-pager: Abracadabra - Looking backward to the fifth Ann: the value of the fotos on the cover was enuf to make me forget any lack in the arrangement of themIf I tired hard ((sic!)) I suppose I could make a pun on the Nanek pic and Annie Oakley or something, but I don't want to try hard. The editorial reminds me to ask you if there are any back issues of VoM for sale at any price. It is now one of my greatest ambitions to own a complete set, something I don't give a about with other fmz. ((A few such, excepting #18 & 25, available at premium prices from publishers.)) I am slightly puzzled by Boob's reference to Louis Berg as a jerk.