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Voice of the Imagination, whole no. 24, August 1942

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IMAGI-NATION   13
Rennv continues:  "Feb.  '42.     All the photos were swell (ain't
TIGRANA nice looking?).     Harry Turner's got a devilish grin on his facel Bradbury got the best place tho!. Morojo looks hard at work, and 4e looks different every pic I see of him. Daugherty looks nuts, and Yerke looks hungry (or is
that natural?). I oppose the idea of condensing letters.    Yes, vehemently! Either (a) print the whole letter; or (b) print part, and forget about the rest altogether.      BUT DON'T CONDENSE LETTERS.    Answer to Elarcy's review of VOM in FFF was very witty.     Good for you. Milty's comments on Levy & nudes check with my opinions entirely.    (To wit: I love nudes but yours are lousy. Levy had
himself in a mental state he no doubt has lived to regret writing about it.) Morojo talks sense about smoking (wait while I light a fag up!) but after all, one is entitled to a little pleasure, and smoking is that although wasteful too. Admittedly it doesn't do you any good, but does it do you any harm? If that's all you
waste your money on, you're not doing badly.    Incidentally, what price are fags in the States those days? Over here they're either 15¢ or 20¢ per 10 Exactly double pre-war prices.    (Cigs here about 65% cheaper'n Anglicigarets.)"   To Tackett's attention Ronny addresses the statement that he thinks science & govt are doing far more harm than good. Agrees with Fortier about fandom & its activities; just has quit collecting, himself. To quit was quite hard but feels much better. Thot
Prof's dame lousy,  Medhurst interesting for once, & without overemphasizing his pet subject: sex. Why not a special Ackermanese edition of the Bible for Moffett? Surely a good Christian shouldn't look at Vomaidens. Ecco has some sensible views on co-operation but they never'll work at the presentime. Leeds too long to
be really interesting & condensation of her letter rotten.   Anglicomments good, especially Templetter.    Cunningham biog poor.    Croutch always good, what's more, amusing.    Tales of Tigrina too cut up.    "All in all, you've still got a swell mag."
13 Jun:   "VOM 22. Cover was quite good (Witch Hazel). Sorry to see VOM go irregular, but it cannot be helped. 4e's job comes first, and you can't work Morojo to death. She's doing quite enough as it is. Larry Shaw's LEPRECHAUN sounds as if it is a good fanzine, and I wouldn't mind seeing a copy. Hey, Larry, can do for a copy of TALES OF WONDER?? Tom Wright hits the nail on the head about nudes. Putting aside all moral questions, and presuming that the majority of VOM readers want nudes, let's have ones well drawn, and worth looking at. Tackett asks something that every fan pleading for better conditions seems to forget. WHAT CAN FANDOM DO ABOUT THIS??? And the answer - nothing!   Len Moffatt,,, 1 still hold that a true stfan cannot be a true Christian. Science fiction preaches the fact that everything can be explained rationally, without recourse to a mythical God, and thus a true Christian should condemn the stories as being blasphemous. But there is a difference between believing in God, and trying to live a Christian life."   Even an atheist may lead a Christian life but intermixing God & Christian principles makes the whole a form of mysticism. The Bible is, in fact, the greatest fantasy yarn ever written. Appears to Renny that Lenny believes the Bible implicitly; but even the Bible is contradictory in parts & its source is not definitely known. No sympathy for  Raym, who should keep his
den either tidy or locked up.    Finds Millard's reason for being a fan interesting but blievs most fans are fans bcuz they (a) want to improve the world; (b) know they can't;  (c) escape via stf,  Speer interesting; nothing much to comment on, tho.    "Meet the Reader(s)" grand—more, more & more, please.    Burke as superior & snobbish as usual.   Doesn't know Tigrina & can't judge her fairly, "'Live and let 
live", Mr. Burke, and remember that your opinion of Tigrina probably reflects someone's opinion of your noble (?) self.- All in all the issue was well up
to scratch, and I thoroughly enjoyed it."

TUCKER: "W.u.p.a.i.V.t.I.h.d.t.r.f. PS"

Milty, the builty of 2113 N Franklin, Philly, Penna: "Dear Voice of the Imagination: (That must be the first time I ever spelt the name out complete. I ran out of ways to be original so I thought of this.)

Bob Tucker, in Le Zombie, or somewhere, where, described the doldrums of a fan, in which said fan loses interest in everything, buys magazines and lays them on the shelf, receives letters and glances at
them casually, tosses them on the desk to be answered later, walks around in a fog, and is generally unhappy without knowing why.    

Yeh. Even the latest VoM
I glanced at casually and tossed aside. Even those excellent photos and that magnificent, gorgeous nude on the back page. Tossed aside, not to be looked at for
weeks, while the cat took her regular afternoon nap upon it.    

Then came a time when I said to myself look here, Rothman, you have to snap out of this.    You can't go on like this forever. Look at you: just bursting with energy and vim and vigor and everything.    The trouble is, you don't know what to do with it all.

And, goddam it, I still don't know what to do with it. The real trouble is that I've been bored to death for the past couple of months, and here I sit still boring myself to death.    And you, too, no doubt. Fah.    

Well, let's dive into a discussion or two. Vom has finally hit the uptrail of discussion. There's room for a
couple of luscious fights and things go in geometrical progression after an issue
such as this. Lloyd Connerly is in the burning idealism stage.   More power to him. I wouldn't have missed it, myself. After a while of it, however, you start
to see what Mr. Marx was talking about. People don't plan changes in society; if
they do they never got what they planned. Changes in societies and systems take
place through tremendous forces brought to bear from many directions: economic
forces, psychological forces, the results of many forms of oppression, industrial
changes. These are forces of indescribably great magnitude; they involve the
interplay of the lives of millions and billions of people.    So we are going to make
plans to buck these incredible pressures, these changes which take place almost of
their own accord, it sometimes seems?  You can't do that. Even the Communists and
Socialists don't try to. Their dialectic materialism is based upon this logical progression from change to change, and the revolution to them is a natural, inevitable thing, taking place from definite causes.    Not planned by a group of Intel-

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IMAGI-NATION 13 Rennv continues: "Feb. '42. All the photos were swell (ain't TIGRANA nice looking?). Harry Turner's got a devilish grin on his facel Bradbury got the best place tho!. Morojo looks hard at work, and 4e looks different every pic I see of him. Daugherty looks nuts, and Yerke looks hungry (or is that natural?). I oppose the idea of condensing letters. Yes, vehemently! Either (a) print the whole letter; or (b) print part, and forget about the rest altogether. BUT DON'T CONDENSE LETTERS. Answer to Elarcy's review of VOM in FFF was very witty. Good for you. Milty's comments on Levy & nudes check with my opinions entirely. (To wit: I love nudes but yours are lousy. Levy had himself in a mental state he no doubt has lived to regret writing about it.) Morojo talks sense about smoking (wait while I light a fag up!) but after all, one is entitled to a little pleasure, and smoking is that although wasteful too. Admittedly it doesn't do you any good, but does it do you any harm? If that's all you waste your money on, you're not doing badly. Incidentally, what price are fags in the States those days? Over here they're either 15¢ or 20¢ per 10 Exactly double pre-war prices. (Cigs here about 65% cheaper'n Anglicigarets.)" To Tackett's attention Ronny addresses the statement that he thinks science & govt are doing far more harm than good. Agrees with Fortier about fandom & its activities; just has quit collecting, himself. To quit was quite hard but feels much better. Thot Prof's dame lousy, Medhurst interesting for once, & without overemphasizing his pet subject: sex. Why not a special Ackermanese edition of the Bible for Moffett? Surely a good Christian shouldn't look at Vomaidens. Ecco has some sensible views on co-operation but they never'll work at the presentime. Leeds too long to be really interesting & condensation of her letter rotten. Anglicomments good, especially Templetter. Cunningham biog poor. Croutch always good, what's more, amusing. Tales of Tigrina too cut up. "All in all, you've still got a swell mag." 13 Jun: "VOM 22. Cover was quite good (Witch Hazel). Sorry to see VOM go irregular, but it cannot be helped. 4e's job comes first, and you can't work Morojo to death. She's doing quite enough as it is. Larry Shaw's LEPRECHAUN sounds as if it is a good fanzine, and I wouldn't mind seeing a copy. Hey, Larry, can do for a copy of TALES OF WONDER?? Tom Wright hits the nail on the head about nudes. Putting aside all moral questions, and presuming that the majority of VOM readers want nudes, let's have ones well drawn, and worth looking at. Tackett asks something that every fan pleading for better conditions seems to forget. WHAT CAN FANDOM DO ABOUT THIS??? And the answer - nothing! Len Moffatt,,, 1 still hold that a true stfan cannot be a true Christian. Science fiction preaches the fact that everything can be explained rationally, without recourse to a mythical God, and thus a true Christian should condemn the stories as being blasphemous. But there is a difference between believing in God, and trying to live a Christian life." Even an atheist may lead a Christian life but intermixing God & Christian principles makes the whole a form of mysticism. The Bible is, in fact, the greatest fantasy yarn ever written. Appears to Renny that Lenny believes the Bible implicitly; but even the Bible is contradictory in parts & its source is not definitely known. No sympathy for Raym, who should keep his den either tidy or locked up. Finds Millard's reason for being a fan interesting but blievs most fans are fans bcuz they (a) want to improve the world; (b) know they can't; (c) escape via stf, Speer interesting; nothing much to comment on, tho. "Meet the Reader(s)" grand—more, more & more, please. Burke as superior & snobbish as usual. Doesn't know Tigrina & can't judge her fairly, "'Live and let live", Mr. Burke, and remember that your opinion of Tigrina probably reflects someone's opinion of your noble (?) self.- All in all the issue was well up to scratch, and I thoroughly enjoyed it." TUCKER: "W.u.p.a.i.V.t.I.h.d.t.r.f. PS" Milty, the builty of 2113 N Franklin, Philly, Penna: "Dear Voice of the Imagination: (That must be the first time I ever spelt the name out complete. I ran out of ways to be original so I thought of this.) Bob Tucker, in Le Zombie, or somewhere, where, described the doldrums of a fan, in which said fan loses interest in everything, buys magazines and lays them on the shelf, receives letters and glances at them casually, tosses them on the desk to be answered later, walks around in a fog, and is generally unhappy without knowing why. Yeh. Even the latest VoM I glanced at casually and tossed aside. Even those excellent photos and that magnificent, gorgeous nude on the back page. Tossed aside, not to be looked at for weeks, while the cat took her regular afternoon nap upon it. Then came a time when I said to myself look here, Rothman, you have to snap out of this. You can't go on like this forever. Look at you: just bursting with energy and vim and vigor and everything. The trouble is, you don't know what to do with it all. And, goddam it, I still don't know what to do with it. The real trouble is that I've been bored to death for the past couple of months, and here I sit still boring myself to death. And you, too, no doubt. Fah. Well, let's dive into a discussion or two. Vom has finally hit the uptrail of discussion. There's room for a couple of luscious fights and things go in geometrical progression after an issue such as this. Lloyd Connerly is in the burning idealism stage. More power to him. I wouldn't have missed it, myself. After a while of it, however, you start to see what Mr. Marx was talking about. People don't plan changes in society; if they do they never got what they planned. Changes in societies and systems take place through tremendous forces brought to bear from many directions: economic forces, psychological forces, the results of many forms of oppression, industrial changes. These are forces of indescribably great magnitude; they involve the interplay of the lives of millions and billions of people. So we are going to make plans to buck these incredible pressures, these changes which take place almost of their own accord, it sometimes seems? You can't do that. Even the Communists and Socialists don't try to. Their dialectic materialism is based upon this logical progression from change to change, and the revolution to them is a natural, inevitable thing, taking place from definite causes. Not planned by a group of Intel-