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Phanteur, whole no. 1, January 1946

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Country anyway, outside of certain areas where States Rights have often been considered more important than Human Rights.

Now for linguistics. If "ch" *doesn't* represent a single sound, Jack, what are its components? *Tsy*, perhaps? [for example, tsyoke :: choke?] If so, then "j" must surely represent *dsy*, [dsyoke :: joke] but I don't recall you saying anything about "j" not being a simple sound.

"....in this one [age] it [thrift] precipitates financial panics and prolongs depressions." But the Conservative Republicans haven't found that out yet, Jack. Your comments on the rest of EEE's remarks on government are good. EEE, like me, is apt to generalize too much. So are you, at times, of course, but not at just this point. -- The teo-colour hektoing is purty, but whyn't you use fancier patterns?Too extravagantly wasteful of carbons? Shux; I can't spend any more time on this, nor space either; there are a lot more 'zines to cover.

*FANTASY JACKPOT*: More than adequate; Andy needn't have apologized. --"The Stone" is a rather good example of one of the better types of non-sf fantasy; I liked it. "October Sunset" is a somewhat different matter; someone is always writing about a guy jumping into the river as a result of encountering something completely contrary to the precepts of the world he has built for himself, but I don't think such a reaction is a common one; I find it rather hard to accept. Fritz Lieber's "Marching Song of the New Intelletuals" is very super stuff indeed; fans, of course, are not suspect!

Laney's article, advancing Speer's proposal for a histomap, is well worked out. I must confess, though, that I'm still a little hazy as to the exact significance of the term "histomap." Anyway, as previously mentioned, I'm not too much interested in who influenced whom, or in what direction. -- Laney's insistence on the pre-eminence of books as compared to pulps leaves me unimpressed. He is almost certainly right, as far as his own favorite branches of fantasy are concerned, but hardly right with respect to science fiction. Wells and Haggard were only rather expert pulpateers [I'm speaking of the Wells of the sf novels] regardless of the form in which their stories first appeared. Stapledon doesn't write in pulp style, judging from the one example I know --Odd John--but in other respects, I don't consider him superior to our better pulpateers of today [Naturally, it is impossible to judge Stapledon's work adequately on the basis of this one book.] As for Odd John himself, I consider him a rather inadequate superman at best. I could continue along this line for some time, but no point would be established by continuing. Some day, we may find the best science fiction appearing in book form, as it should; but up to now, the pukps appear to have the best of it. *BROWSING*: The new browsing is very good indeed. The combination of material from Mike and publication by EEE [with all the vast facilities og the LASFS and Slan Shack at his disposal] is a happy one. Doug Webster's contribution is especially interesting to me, being a picture of British politics and internal change from the British viewpoint; something we don't get in our newspapers. I'd like to see a lot more of this. -- Brown's book selections are interesting, being notable for the wide range of subject-matter and style represented. And Mike's editorial comments and review are always interesting. *FAN-DANGO* This is wunnaful; F-D is back, as sharp as ever, but without the chip on the shoulder. -- I'm in favour of boosting the membership limit a bit myself, mainly for the reasons Laney gives; but as Fran says, that Amazing Amendment may stymie aany change.

Laney, by the way, is a great guy to correspond with. He coyly leaves gapping holes in his most impressive argumants; holes through which the unwary recipient of the letter plunges with squeals of triumph, only to discover that he has been mouse-trapped. Stimulating, to say the least.

The Jazz Department interests me this time. I'll never be a record collector, but come the day when I get around to purchasing a record player, I intend to get a very small, representative selection from several types of

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Country anyway, outside of certain areas where States Rights have often been considered more important than Human Rights. Now for linguistics. If "ch" *doesn't* represent a single sound, Jack, what are its components? *Tsy*, perhaps? [for example, tsyoke :: choke?] If so, then "j" must surely represent *dsy*, [dsyoke :: joke] but I don't recall you saying anything about "j" not being a simple sound. "....in this one [age] it [thrift] precipitates financial panics and prolongs depressions." But the Conservative Republicans haven't found that out yet, Jack. Your comments on the rest of EEE's remarks on government are good. EEE, like me, is apt to generalize too much. So are you, at times, of course, but not at just this point. -- The teo-colour hektoing is purty, but whyn't you use fancier patterns?Too extravagantly wasteful of carbons? Shux; I can't spend any more time on this, nor space either; there are a lot more 'zines to cover. *FANTASY JACKPOT*: More than adequate; Andy needn't have apologized. --"The Stone" is a rather good example of one of the better types of non-sf fantasy; I liked it. "October Sunset" is a somewhat different matter; someone is always writing about a guy jumping into the river as a result of encountering something completely contrary to the precepts of the world he has built for himself, but I don't think such a reaction is a common one; I find it rather hard to accept. Fritz Lieber's "Marching Song of the New Intelletuals" is very super stuff indeed; fans, of course, are not suspect! Laney's article, advancing Speer's proposal for a histomap, is well worked out. I must confess, though, that I'm still a little hazy as to the exact significance of the term "histomap." Anyway, as previously mentioned, I'm not too much interested in who influenced whom, or in what direction. -- Laney's insistence on the pre-eminence of books as compared to pulps leaves me unimpressed. He is almost certainly right, as far as his own favorite branches of fantasy are concerned, but hardly right with respect to science fiction. Wells and Haggard were only rather expert pulpateers [I'm speaking of the Wells of the sf novels] regardless of the form in which their stories first appeared. Stapledon doesn't write in pulp style, judging from the one example I know --Odd John--but in other respects, I don't consider him superior to our better pulpateers of today [Naturally, it is impossible to judge Stapledon's work adequately on the basis of this one book.] As for Odd John himself, I consider him a rather inadequate superman at best. I could continue along this line for some time, but no point would be established by continuing. Some day, we may find the best science fiction appearing in book form, as it should; but up to now, the pukps appear to have the best of it. *BROWSING*: The new browsing is very good indeed. The combination of material from Mike and publication by EEE [with all the vast facilities og the LASFS and Slan Shack at his disposal] is a happy one. Doug Webster's contribution is especially interesting to me, being a picture of British politics and internal change from the British viewpoint; something we don't get in our newspapers. I'd like to see a lot more of this. -- Brown's book selections are interesting, being notable for the wide range of subject-matter and style represented. And Mike's editorial comments and review are always interesting. *FAN-DANGO* This is wunnaful; F-D is back, as sharp as ever, but without the chip on the shoulder. -- I'm in favour of boosting the membership limit a bit myself, mainly for the reasons Laney gives; but as Fran says, that Amazing Amendment may stymie aany change. Laney, by the way, is a great guy to correspond with. He coyly leaves gapping holes in his most impressive argumants; holes through which the unwary recipient of the letter plunges with squeals of triumph, only to discover that he has been mouse-trapped. Stimulating, to say the least. The Jazz Department interests me this time. I'll never be a record collector, but come the day when I get around to purchasing a record player, I intend to get a very small, representative selection from several types of